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Medical Center Or Middle School?

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Posted to Diary on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 12:38:00 AM EST. RSS.

Was John McCain's nomination acceptance speech a matter of confused priorities or merely confused? The image shown behind McCain for most of his speech was that of Walter Reed Middle School in North Hollywood, CA--a place that emphatically did not give permission for its image to be used.

Some believe the intention was to use an image of Walter Reed Medical Center across the country in Washington, DC, ostensibly to emphasize McCain's veteran status. Still others, however, theorize that he was simply paying homage to The West Wing.

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Re: Medical Center Or Middle School?

ms sue.

Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 11:25:47 AM EST

4.50 (funny, informative)

According to the LAT this morning:

By late afternoon, McCain's campaign was characterizing the use of the picture as a way of illustrating the candidate's call "for public education reforms that empower parents and students before bureaucrats and labor unions," as spokesman Tucker Bounds put it.

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I slept through some of ...

MayorBob.

Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 12:24:50 PM EST

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... McCain's speech.  Did he make any mention of public education reforms?

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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ms sue.

Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 04:04:37 PM EST

none

Can't help you there, mayor. Instead of listening, I spent my time much more productively, fretting and gnashing.

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Re: spokesman

zyxwvutsr.

Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 01:31:13 PM EST

none

"Tucker Bounds"?!

That's reason enough to vote against McCain.

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Tucker Bounds.

MayorBob.

Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 02:11:56 PM EST

none

He's the spokesperson who had a problem explaining what experience Sarah Palin brought to the table that made her a good choice.  She's an "energy expert" -- undoubtedly calling for windfall profits taxes from energy companies makes you an energy expert these days.  She's had executive experience sitting in the governor's chair for a year and a half.  She is Commander in Chief of the Alaskan National Guard which Bounds assured Campbell Brown, the reporter who interviewed him, meant that she was involved in every decision made in the National Guard, from decisions on outfitting and assignments to deployments.  Fascinating information that state governors are that neck deep in making decisions for their states' national guard units.

Why do I get the distinct impression that, with a few more performances like this the proper way to address Mr. Bounds will be "former McCain spokesperson Tucker Bounds"?

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Re: Tucker Bounds.

zyxwvutsr.

Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 02:15:10 PM EST

4.00 (funny)

I hope so: I never want to hear that name again.

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Re: Tucker Bounds.

Shy Elf.

Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 11:08:11 PM EST

none

That's exactly what I thought for about a second, but after that I concluded that I should just be grateful that he has a better name than Coco Crisp.

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Re: Medical Center Or Middle School?

joshv.

Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 08:33:21 AM EST

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I wasn't aware that anyone needed permission to use a picture of a public place.

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Re: Medical Center Or Middle School?

1fastdog.

Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 10:06:14 AM EST

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It's not so much a question of permission to use the picture, as it is an "endorsement" issue. Schools are usually off-limits for political use, because they probably receive some form of govt funding and are supposed to be a non-partisan arena. Quote from the Wired link:

Permission to use the front of our school for the Republican National Convention was not given by our school nor is the use of our school's picture an endorsement of any political party or view."

The smart money says that the Republican techie tasked with grabbing an image of Walter Reed hospital took the first pic that came up that looked purty and had the words Walter Reed in there somewhere. As noted by Josh Marshall:

But several readers have suggested that perhaps one of the tech geeks charged with setting up the audio/visual bells and whistles for the evening was tasked with getting pictures of Walter Reed Army Medical Center but goofed and got this instead. At first I thought, No, that's ridiculous. This is a major political party with big time professionals putting this together. Nothing is left to chance. I mean, is this the RNC or a scene out Spinal Tap or Waiting for Guffman? I still have a bit of a hard time believing they're quite that incompetent. But when you figure in what appears to be the utter lack of any logic for this school being behind McCain and the fact that it has 'Walter Reed' in its name, I'm really not sure you can discount this possibility.

On a related note, '70s rockers Heart and their record company are putting the quash on McCain/Palin for the illegal use of Heart's hit song Barracuda:

The Wilsons said their representatives, Universal Music Publishing and Sony BMG, have sent a cease-and-desist notice to the McCain-Palin campaign to not use the song as the congratulatory theme for Palin.

Somewhere in my soul, there's always Rock -n- Roll... Joe Strummer

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Obama says:

MayorBob.

Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 10:36:32 AM EST

none

"Senator McCain is welcome to any votes cast by Middle School students this election."

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Re: Medical Center Or Middle School?

gerrymander.

Tue Sep 09, 2008 at 03:41:12 AM EST

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'70s rockers Heart and their record company are putting the quash on McCain/Palin for the illegal use of Heart's hit song Barracuda

It's only illegal if the campaign didn't pay for performance and broadcast rights. I'm guessing it did. Barring prior notice by the performer, ASCAP would have sent the typical contracts for public performance and broadcasting to McCain's people. How much control the Wilson sisters & band have over that contract now depends upon the terms agreed upon at signing. If it was a one-time deal, the band can prevent future use of the song. If it involved use throughout the campaign, that's another story.

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bad habits

1fastdog.

Tue Sep 09, 2008 at 02:32:38 PM EST

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The McCain campaign is claiming they paid the appropriate fees:

"The McCain campaign respects intellectual-property rights," Brian Rogers, a campaign spokesman said. "Accordingly, prior to using `Barracuda' at any events, we paid for and obtained all necessary licenses."

So, they respect intellectual-property rights, huh? Considering that they've had their dicks knocked in the dirt over this very same issue repeatedly during their campaign, I'm guessing they're completely full of crap on that whole respect thing. Well, I'm not guessing, but you already knew that. If it turns out that McCain and Co. paid a blanket fee for public performance, the artist may still rescind/stop the use of said material. The fact that they've repeatedly used songs w/out clearing them with the artists first, is another sign that they don't care about intellectual-property rights.
Here's a shortlist of folks who've asked them to stop using their work:
Van Halen
Jackson Browne
John Mellencamp
ABBA
Frankie Valli

Surely the GOP should be able to find somebody, somewhere who's ready, willing and able to provide tuneage which would blunt the steady parade of bad publicity that's so far resulted from them not doing their homework about the artists and songs in question.

Somewhere in my soul, there's always Rock -n- Roll... Joe Strummer

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Re: bad habits

Lou.

Tue Sep 09, 2008 at 02:46:37 PM EST

none

I understand that the Dixie Chicks are available...hmmm, probably not a good choice when you think about it.

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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gerrymander.

Tue Sep 09, 2008 at 03:50:59 PM EST

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The fact that they've repeatedly used songs w/out clearing them with the artists first

...is entirely irrelevant. Musical artists sign up with one of two big copyright licensing firms, ASCAP or BMI, for the sole purpose of not needing to deal with every request to use their recordings for a fee. Those licensing agencies are granted all the legal rights necessary to act as agents on the artists' behalf, save in cases where an artist has explicitly issued direction otherwise. Not surprisingly, ASCAP and BMI are rather promiscuous with their licensing agreements; their job is to provide the artists with money for something the artist did years ago. They are not in the business of turning away ready cash.

In this case, Heart got all pissy and actually issued direction -- after the contract was signed and and performance was broadcast. In other words, too late.

Oddly enough, I don't see Heart stating that ASCAP should return the fee. Nor have I seen any stories (and there would be some) about Van Halen, Mellencamp, et al. issuing blanket orders to their licensing agency to refuse any and all requests from conservative politicians and affiliates. There's a reason for this: musicians are whores. They are thrilled to take the money of anyone who wants to use their music. It means they can continue not getting real jobs after their careers have diminished to playing the state fair and polkafest circuit.

Being celebrities, however faded, they also want to publicly shoot their mouths off about their opinions. Fair enough, that's their right as Americans. But don't go ranting about how unfair it is the this politician or that cause is using their music without asking until you've followed the money -- right into the artist's back pocket.

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You are stupid

JimmyHavok.

Sat Sep 20, 2008 at 01:04:43 AM EST

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I can't help it, that's the immediate reaction I got from what you wrote here.  You are appallingly stupid.

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also

gerrymander.

Tue Sep 09, 2008 at 04:18:59 PM EST

none

Following up on the that: If the McCain/Palin campaign really wanted to be dicks, they could hire some musician to write a song which sampled riffs from "Barracuda." Sampling invokes a compulsory license, and the sampled artist can't even issue orders preventing it so long as the checks clear.

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Re: bad habits

zyxwvutsr.

Tue Sep 09, 2008 at 07:59:11 PM EST

none

They still have Ted Nugent.

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Forget the screen

Lou.

Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 10:01:40 AM EST

none

What about that giant penis-shaped stage?

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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