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Breaking News: Goodbye Governor Palin, Hello Candidate Palin?

novy.

Posted to Politics on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 05:08:32 PM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

Alaska Governor Sarah Palin intends to step down as Governor by month's end, and she has no intention to run for reelection as Alaska Governor in 2010. She made her announcement at home in Wasilla. Her decision seems to indicate that she will be running for President in 2012.

CBS News political director Steve Chaggaris commented:

"Her stepping down at the end of the month allows her to focus on her future political plans: a run for the 2012 presidency. She won't be restricted by the trappings of a faraway governor's office and the continuing firing squad from her opponents in Alaska, and won't have to worry about a potentially tough gubernatorial re-election bid in 2010. It will clear the deck for Palin to focus on raising money and speaking to Republicans around the country as she gears up for 2012. Going back to Alaska wasn't a safe haven. She sees people like Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich, who aren't tethered to a political office, getting a head-start. Now she doesn't have to worry about answering to people in Alaska, and be in a more convenient situation to focus on national campaigning and establishing a base, rather being stuck in Wasilla, Juneau or Fairbanks."
Does Palin's move make sense? Will she become odds-on favourite to win her party's nomination in 2012?

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Re: Breaking News: Goodbye Governor Palin, Hello C

skeptic.

Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 05:35:39 PM EST

5.00 (extreme)

While there is undoubtedly an extremist wing of the Republican Party which loves Sarah Palin, she has very little chance of becoming President.  She has already proved to be a liability as a vice Presidential candidate, and would probably do even worse as a Presidential candidate - unless America completely loses it's collective mind by 2012, so I guess we'll have to wait and see.

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Re: Breaking News: Goodbye Governor Palin, Hello C

novy.

Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 08:29:23 PM EST

4.00 (funny)

You don't understand. For Palin fans, if she won that Republican nomination, her chances of winning would seem much better than McCain's, because they honestly think their echo chamber comprises half or more of Americans. If she lost by 2 to 1, they would hold demonstrations in major cities from Mobile to Billings, Lubbock, Richmond, Anchorage and beyond, comparing themselves to Iranian revolutionaries. Some things feel even better than winning elections.

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Re: Breaking News: Goodbye Governor Palin, Hello C

delete me.

Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 08:09:16 PM EST

none

After how she betrayed Alaskans by turning on issues that non-Alaskans deemed ridiculous, I don't see how she could've been re-elected as governor.

- derumi (del-me)
"It is the farewell kiss, you dog!" - Muntadhar al-Zaidi

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FTW

Lou.

Sat Jul 04, 2009 at 05:25:35 PM EST

5.00 (pointed)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but QUITTER gets a higher score than LEADER in Scrabble.

Minty fresh

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Re: Breaking News: Goodbye Governor Palin, Hello C

HidingFromGoro.

Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 02:03:13 AM EST

5.00 (brilliant)

Sara Palin: The Natalee Holloway for people who "are like, really into politics."

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Re: Breaking News: Goodbye Governor Palin, Hello C

port1080.

Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 05:12:58 PM EST

none

Weird news...not sure what to think of it.  NBC's Andrea Mitchell is reporting that Palin is leaving politics for good.  Palin has posted a cryptic tweet saying "We'll soon attach info on decision to not seek re-election... this is in Alaska's best interest, my family's happy... it is good, stay tuned" - which could mean anything from she's preggers again to she's running in 2012.  Mainstream Republicans seem puzzled and dissapointed with the way this went down - Rich Lowrey on National Review (generally a Palin booster), writes: "Rambling and not at all persuasive as an argument for her decision. More Gibson/Couric than GOP convention speech. She shouldn't have said a thing without getting Matt Scully--or some similarly talented speechwriter--on the case first. As to how this decision plays out ultimately, we'll see. There's plenty of time if (as I assume) she wants to run in 2012, and she obviously has plenty of capital with Republicans. But not an auspicious start."

Ce n'est pas une pipe. C'est une signature.

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Re: Breaking News: Goodbye Governor Palin, Hello C

novy.

Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 08:16:22 PM EST

none

As auspicious as anything she did during her 2008 vice presidential campaign. "If, as I assume, she wants to run in 2012", Rich Lowry will fall all over himself to talk her up, no matter what he says now. Expecting Lowry, or other Republican loyalists, to do other than cheer for their team no matter what, as if politics were just another version of football, would be to expect way too much.

Don't expect Palin to leave politics for good. She seems completely hooked. Coherent speechwriting would be "politics as usual" and she doesn't want anything to do with that.

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Re: Breaking News: Goodbye Governor Palin, Hello C

pO157.

Sat Jul 04, 2009 at 07:50:43 AM EST

none

Could she be pregnant again? Maybe. My bet is on a scandal that she knows is going to break in the next few months/weeks.

Bottles and cans just clap your hands just clap your hands

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Re: Breaking News: Goodbye Governor Palin, Hello C

pO157.

Sat Jul 04, 2009 at 08:13:43 AM EST

none

Wow. The GOP echo chamber is so full of fail on this one. Selected quotes which are just as hilarious as yours:

However, CNN Republican strategist Mary Matalin said she thought the move was "really brilliant" on Palin's part, though she admitted she was surprised when she heard the news.

"Her delivery was incredible. If you're a less charismatic person, you probably couldn't pull it off. [Now] she will be freed up and liberated the way Mitt Romney is to raise money and get political chips by spending it and getting political capital. And she is still raising the kinds of crowds and money she always did."

Now, Matalin says, Palin must focus on "putting up with the conventional wisdom" that this was a bad move and travel the country to drum up support for a presidential run. "She takes that target off her back with a good record to launch from," Matalin said.

CNN needs a new GOP strategist. Especially since she said there is no way this could be related to upcoming legal or political difficulties that Palin is seeing around the corner. I mean, Palin said so, right?

Bottles and cans just clap your hands just clap your hands

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Trainwreck of a Speech

keta.

Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 05:34:59 PM EST

none

Holy candied caribou, that was one ramblin' wreck of a resignation speech.  She never did divulge why she's stepping down, then told us she has "given my reasons," more than once.  And that MacArthur quote at the end was precious.

I think there's some pictures out there of her and an indigineous Alaskan mammal doing the dirty.  

At any rate, she certainly made sure to intimate very strongly that she's a victim.  Of what, exactly (other than the "liberal microscope" boo fucking hoo) we don't yet know.  But we will.  We will.  (Something involving sled dogs would be a nice twist.)

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Re: Trainwreck of a Speech

novy.

Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 08:18:21 PM EST

5.00 (astute)

"[T]hat was one ramblin' wreck of a resignation speech" because that was one ramblin' wreck of a candidate. Get used to it, you can count on her being serious in 2012.

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My sources tell me

Steve Urkel.

Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 07:33:36 PM EST

none

She's going to host a daytime talk show.

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Re: My sources tell me

novy.

Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 08:30:59 PM EST

none

On Fox News. She can be on just before Beck. At least her tears will be more believable than his.

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My sources tell me

Thalia.

Sat Jul 04, 2009 at 02:44:57 AM EST

none

Or get indicted for embezzlement.  Or quite possibly, both.

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Re: My sources tell me

MayorBob.

Sat Jul 04, 2009 at 01:24:52 PM EST

none

She's replacing Billy Mays as the pitchman from Hell.  And you thought she couldn't possibly get more annoying.

Tending to final details.

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Re: My sources tell me

novy.

Sun Jul 05, 2009 at 11:48:42 PM EST

5.00 (compelling)

She would be great selling pregnancy tests or moose steaks.

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Lou.

Sat Jul 04, 2009 at 02:19:21 PM EST

none

Hey, welcome back.

Minty fresh

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Re: Stick a fork in her

pO157.

Sat Jul 04, 2009 at 07:57:13 AM EST

none

She's done. Now there will always be the echo chamber folks who will back her no matter what for being "mavericky" but the fact is she doesn't appeal to a majority of the nation. What's worse for her is the fact that she probably has strong disapproval numbers that nothing will change.

Leaving in the midst of a term to begin a campaign looks suspicious as hell. See my comment #11, I wonder what she is going to be charged with. Of course, her boosters will say that she's doing this to have more time to prepare for '12 which will make her more successful. To them, I have two words: Tom Vilsack.

Bottles and cans just clap your hands just clap your hands

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How dare they speculate!

Lou.

Sun Jul 05, 2009 at 01:51:20 PM EST

none

It looks like our erstwhile governor and VP prospect is planning to sue the intertubes for issuing a collective WTF about her surprise exit.  And this is the person who could have been a defibrillator away from the presidency.

Minty fresh

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Re: How dare they speculate!

HidingFromGoro.

Sun Jul 05, 2009 at 04:58:31 PM EST

none

Of all the things Palin could sue the internet for, why choose the non-story everyone was going to find out about/speculate about anyway?

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Re: How dare they speculate!

Lou.

Mon Jul 06, 2009 at 12:20:57 AM EST

5.00 (astute)

"why choose the non-story everyone was going to find out about/speculate about anyway?"

She's moose-fuck crazy?

Minty fresh

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Re: How dare they speculate!

HidingFromGoro.

Mon Jul 06, 2009 at 04:23:06 AM EST

4.50 (pornographic, loyal)

I will watch Palin porn until the day I die, and my significant other will approve of it.

Cold dead hands fuckers, cold dead hands.

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Re: Breaking News: Goodbye Governor Palin, Hello C

DEMachina.

Sun Jul 05, 2009 at 06:31:02 PM EST

none

I took this as a sign that she's realized she is not nor ever has been a viable candidate for national office.  That or an impending indictment or something like that.

The boo-hooing about all the scrutiny is of course ridiculous.  Where was she when her party did the exact same thing to its opponents?

Honestly I really don't care what her reasons are, as long as this isn't a prelude to a bid for 2012, of course.  If that's the case, what this act says to me is that she either can't handle leading a state or that her political career is more important to her than her responsibilities.  We want someone like this in office why?

Q: What do you think of western civilization? Gandhi: I think it would be a good idea.

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Re: Breaking News: Goodbye Governor Palin, Hello C

port1080.

Mon Jul 06, 2009 at 01:00:10 PM EST

none

The thing that burns me up about Palin is that she phrases her criticism of her critics in ways that attempt to marginalize them, in ways that are completely implausible. She lies the big lie brashly, and then when she gets called on it she just accuses those people who point it out of unjustly persecuting her. It's like when the Clintons imagined that there was some vast right wing conspiracy against them, but hundreds of times worse. Anyone that critiques her is an out of touch liberal Washington insider (how, I wonder, will she make that charge stick against Mike Huckabee?). She needs to realize that there are people who honestly think that she is unqualified to govern, who honestly think her policy proposals are wrong, who disagree with her in good faith. It's not some big conspiracy to keep Sarah Palin out of office. It's a big conspiracy to keep poorly informed, erratic, unprepared politicians from national office. If she was a liberal white male Democrat from Alaska with the same qualifications and background, I (and, I think, most of her critics) would be equally horrified.

Ce n'est pas une pipe. C'est une signature.

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Re: Breaking News: Goodbye Governor Palin, Hello C

novy.

Mon Jul 06, 2009 at 01:28:34 PM EST

none

"[S]he phrases her criticism of her critics in ways that attempt to marginalize them, in ways that are completely implausible. She lies the big lie brashly..."

You have described most of America's Christian right these days. Anti-Christ Obama wants to take their guns and reduce them to Communist slavery. They heard it on Fox News.

Mike Huckabee has almost as little business running America as Sarah Palin does, but he seems more pleasant than she does. I would trust either of them at least as much as I would trust Dick Cheney. Any of them could count on enthusiastic support from Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity et alia. Why focus on Palin?  

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focus on Palin

skeptic.

Mon Jul 06, 2009 at 01:38:08 PM EST

none

It is true that Palin is hardly unique in her political foibles; she is representative of the American far right in general.  But it is also true that she is more likely to eventually emerge as the Republican Presidential candidate in 2012, than any of the other people you mentioned.  Cheney is too old and ill, and all of those commentators are just going to remain commentators.  Palin seems to be the one who wants to be the standard-bearer.

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Re: focus on Palin

novy.

Mon Jul 06, 2009 at 03:26:18 PM EST

none

I would think liberals and Democrats would be thrilled to see Palin as Republican standard-bearer in 2012.

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skeptic.

Tue Jul 07, 2009 at 09:15:29 AM EST

none

Oh, no doubt about it, liberals and Democrats would love to see Palin as the Republican candidate.  It would be a great gift to the Democratic Party for the Republicans to be foolish enough to nominate Sarah Palin for President, given that she has so little credibility and could not be elected, except, as I previously noted, by some kind of mass insanity taking over the nation, which I do not expect to happen.

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3rd Party Palin

port1080.

Mon Jul 06, 2009 at 03:28:18 PM EST

none

Chris Orr proposes an interesting thought experiment:

if I were, say, Mitt Romney, I would be a tad concerned...If one believes, as I do, a) that Palin has every intention of running for president, barring the emergence a scandal that makes this impossible; b) that she will not win the GOP nomination; and c) that the bitter grudge-holding that has characterized her career will continue; she seems an unusually plausible risk to launch a base-shattering third-party candidacy.

It's an interesting thought, although Pat Buchanon had a seemingly similar popularity with the base in the 1990s, but was unable to translate it into any significant impact during his 2000 presidential campaign...

Ce n'est pas une pipe. C'est une signature.

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Re: 3rd Party Palin

Lou.

Mon Jul 06, 2009 at 04:25:14 PM EST

none

Agreed, but Pat was a member of the Eastern Establishment (tm).  Also he isn't cute, spunky and maverick-y.

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port1080.

Mon Jul 06, 2009 at 04:31:10 PM EST

none

Agreed, but Pat was a member of the Eastern Establishment (tm).  Also he isn't cute, spunky and maverick-y.

True...in that sense Palin is more like Ross Perot in '96 (scorned by the establishment, but with lots of popular support).  Unlike Perot, though, she's not independently wealthy.  That may be the biggest kink of all in any plan that she has - where's the money going to come from?  If she's smart, the first thing she will do is hire someone with experience at small scale grass-roots fundraising (as pioneered by Howard Dean).  I think that's her only chance at raising serious money - without the Republican establishment behind her, the traditional Republican money taps are probably going to be mostly turned off.

Ce n'est pas une pipe. C'est une signature.

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Palin's finances

wayhip.

Mon Jul 06, 2009 at 04:39:50 PM EST

none

Ran into this at another site. Very interesting:

http://www.niemanwatchdog.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=ask_this.view&askthisid=00378

Seems she built a huge house on about a 60K salary while mayor, raised taxes while mayor but left a budget deficit for the town, can't document how the house was paid for and some of the contractors for the house also got contracts for a huge rec center for the town while she was mayor.

Stinks to high heaven of corruption.  

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Re: Breaking News: Goodbye Governor Palin, Hello C

tomc.

Mon Jul 06, 2009 at 07:45:59 PM EST

none

I heard from a reliable source that Sarah Palin is considering a run for the Presidency of Russia.

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Re: Breaking News: Goodbye Governor Palin, Hello C

Lou.

Mon Jul 06, 2009 at 10:45:52 PM EST

5.00 (informative)

In Russia, the government runs for Sarah Palin.

(sorry)

Minty fresh

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History

uncarved block.

Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 09:22:38 AM EST

none

    The comparisons to Hillary Clinton are fascinating, if you want to think of Palin's run that way. Everybody assumes Palin is running, even though she's being coy about whether that's really going to happen or not. Palin also has a similar problem with the charisma that's allowing her to be considered at all-- the very quality that makes the base enthusiastic also motivates and enervates the opposition. And they both could be considered as trying to shatter a glass ceiling for women: in HRC's case, that of running for president, and in Palin's case the traditional Republican hierarchy when it comes to backing a presidential candidate. The really big question, one that will depend more on her campaign manager rather than Palin herself, is whether there will be a serious effort to convert those crowds we saw in 2008 into an actual multi-state campaign structure. Not having the patience to stick out another year in Alaska does not bode well for this, btw-- there's little to gain by starting more than 18 months out from the election, and there's a serious risk of voter fatigue setting in, especially with those moderates Palin would need to have any chance of beating someone like Romney in the primaries.
    That said, a serious candidacy by Palin in 2011 is probably on Rahm Emanuel's wish list right about now.

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